Velama-Velama sub divisions-Existence, dicrepencies on OC, BC--EXPLAINED

Some of our friends asked about various velama divisions. So here is a brief information about the velama caste and subdivisions and existence of velamas in specific locations.


Important NOTE: Though these divisions are done in due course of time, these are no longer a hurdle for velamas growth. You may be called as polinati, padmanayaka, koppula, adi velama, but inturn you are one of those great ancistors of andhra rulers. So lets forget about which division we are:- we are unitedly called as velamas.

Actually I am not interested in explaining all the sub-divisions of velamas initially because in present world what people know is ONE n ONLY ONE VELAMA. The following details about divisions of velamas is given in view of the requests from our fellow velamaites who want to know more about their subdivision.


The divisions are done by some of our ancestors depending upon the area of living. Some politicians like JALAGAM VENGALRAO, has brought reservations to two groups of velamas like polinati n koppula inorder to assure those educationally backward velamaites in srikakulam district. Taking this as an advantage, Many of us who want BC reservation can turn into Koppula Velama and those who doesn't want reservation can retain as OC. This tactic is rightly put by jalagam vengalarao, the then chief minister of andhra pradesh.  So now it is upto you to choose if you want reservation. Those people who are interested to get BC-D reservation can get a certificate at the local MRO office claiming to be a koppula velama.


Apart from reservation criteria, Velamas are all similar in build, beauty, power and wealth in their respective areas. Various sub divisions prove strong and powerful in various places. So be proud to be a velama.

Velama sub divisions


All the divisions are based on their original living location. Major divisions in Andhra Pradesh are:

  • Padmanayaka Velama
     
  • Adi Velama 

  • Koppula Velama
     
  • Polinati Velama


Padmanayaka velamas are also called as Padma Velamas. They live mostly in Telangana districts like Karimnagar, Warangal, Adilabad, Nizamabad, Rangareddy, Medak, Mahbubnagar, Nalgonda, Hyderabad, and Coastal Andhra. They are also found in Addanki (Ongole), Vijayawada, Kakinada, Nuzvidu and the villages surrounding these places. Politically, socially and economically, they played a prominent role in the growth of Andhra Pradesh.

Adi Velamas are seen in Machilipatnam, Rajahmundry, Hyderabad, amongst other regions.

Polinati Velamas are seen in Srikakulam and other coastal Andhra districts. Most Polinati Velamas have Naidu as their middle name, and their primary occupation is farming. They play a dominant role in Srikakulam district politics and form the backbone of this district's economy.

Koppula Velamas live in Visakhapatnam, Vizianagaram, Rajahmundry and other coastal Andhra districts. Most Koppula Velamas have Naidu as middle name i.e. suffix in their names and their primary occupation is farming. They play key roles in Vizianagaram and Visakhapatnam district politics and are vital to these districts' economy.

104 comments:

  1. It was rather interesting for me to read that article. Thanks for it. I like such topics and everything that is connected to this matter. I definitely want to read a bit more on that blog soon.

    Truly yours
    Darek Wish

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    1. Sir
      I belong to Madurai district of Tamil Nadu.we belong to velama and it is said our ancestors were brought by Thiruvallur Naik.we belong to TEkkalavar clan worship Ramakkammal as our family deity.But we do not know the root of our family deity.Can someone throw light on this.
      Rajaram 08110014757.

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  2. thanks for ur clarifcation...

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  3. koppula velama and adhi velama is BC.D

    padma and adhi oc

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    1. Plz clarify when the koppula velama converted or utalisation of BC D caste reservation come in force .
      Plz inform the which district came from which year.

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    2. Koppula velamas are included in BC category since 1972.

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    3. Koppula velamas ki other velamas ki diff emina unda sir adina same nea kada velams antea malli e padma nayaka velams ela sub untaya i have a dout plz clarfy that....

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    4. padma nayaka velamas are comming into under the cate4gory of OC and the remaining are like koppu, adhi etc are will be came under the category of Bc . and there is sub parts in the padma nayaka velamas

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    5. and there is no sub parts in the padmanayaka velamas

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    6. Adhi velama comes under oc not bc

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    7. Madam manalo bc oc godava vodhu ok na we are all one blood velama

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  4. Guys, dont speak abt sub casts, we r velamaites. we have to stand together for social recognition. Can any body see the EENADU news paper on April, 25th, 2010? KVP is great guys, he just want to give all congress regional posts to velamites. He is showing velama caste feeling, he shown many times in the past. He is great, KVP zindabad!

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    1. Chutiya..Padmanayaka Velamas are completely a different caste..They are as different as Brahmins from Nayi brahmins

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    2. pogaru bothuvi. enno cross marriages jarugutunnavi ee nalugu caste la madhyana. Telengana lo anni subdivisions lu OC le.

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    4. Padma nayaka Velma came from tamil nadu choulakyas

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    5. Mr chelikani, every where there's a velama discussion you never fail to spew venom from your stupid mouth. Just relax. No one gives a fuck if your sub sector is considered greater than other sub sectors,coz actually we other sub sectors don't give a fuck and we consider ourselves super rich and great and we don't need your individual validation .

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    6. Mr chelikani There are so many sub sectors in every caste. Reddy's have up to 9 subsectors approx, kamma 4, kapus more than 10 and velamas 4. Now not all reddy sub sects people look similar nor are equally rich. Some are filthy rich and some are dirt poor.Some are tall and fair and some short and dark. Kapus have a majority population percentage in state approx 15% of state population and do you think all kapus own 100's of acres of lands, big bungalows and have crores worth of assets? And do all of them look similar? Now do you think just because there was Reddy kingdom ,kapu kingdom, all the reddys/kapus individuals ruled their respective kingdoms? All the people under reddy kingdom with a certain occupation like farming/fighting in wars were considered as reddys same with other castes. And similarly certain people under velama kingdom were all considered as one group velamas.

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    7. Mr chelikani Understand the fucking difference.
      ‌Just because you asshole shout some nonsense doesn't make anyone inferior to you. We KV and PV's also have people who own 100's of acres of lands, businesses, buildings, hospitals. And I am a KV and we own more than 15 Cr worth assets and I don't think you even own a quarter of that. And some are tall and fair and short-fair and short and dark combinations. So just keep your mouth shut and mind your fucking own business and understand the differences.

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    8. Mr chelikani , remember that once you die these castes won't even matter. You might be reborn as a pig or dog or lizard no one knows. So stop having these stupid caste feelings and stop giving yourself so much of importance. I have seen your name in many velama discussion pages,youtube videos everywhere spitting venom with your filthy mouth. Just keep calm and relax.No one needs your validation.

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    9. Don't scold him he is right some tell rajasthan rajputs

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    11. IamgreatHuman
      Can you ping me in person??
      I'll leave my id down below
      rajasekhars@live.com

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    12. TBH I was dismayed running through the comment section looking at the internal conflict within our community.
      The attitude really has to change.

      PS: Velama and Padmanayaka Velama are in no way correlated.
      Bhimeswara Puranamu listed Velama and Padmanayaka as separate communities

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  5. Thank you for asserting that velamas are united irrespective of their subcastes. In this highly competitive world we will only fall if we stay divided. My extended family has all subcastes of velamas through intermarriage. We have always given highest importnace to education and professional success rather than to minor issues like subcastes. It is my conviction that we should respect indivdual merit rather than one's origin.

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  6. Do you think the formation of Telangana, where Padmanayaka velamas are concentrated, will cause a rift among the Velama subcastes? Will our caste get divided on regional basis? I hope we stay united irrespective of regional differences.

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  7. Anonymous, good question? As per my opinion, no way, velama's are velamas. Every velamite have that caste feeling regardless of their sub cate. My family has mixed of Padmanayakas and koppula. my grand fathers always jokes abt their subcates, but seriously they dont have any feeling! U know one thing there are 2 sub casts in padmanayakas, raasa velama and eki velama!
    Any how Velama's are velama's! Proud to say that!!!!!!!!!

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  8. Thanks Vinay :)

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  9. Hi all...

    I am not at all familiar with all these things...
    but i need a clarification regarding one ting..
    Can anyone tell me can a polinati velama girl marry a koppula velama guy??
    will der be any objections in dis??
    I mean I wanted to know how dey r related..
    please clarify me dis issue..
    plzzzzzzzzz...

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    1. No they won't because they are oc and koppula velamas are BC and they won't marry. Even adhi vwlama are called as gunasakale. Even koppula velama and adhi velama don't marry each outher

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  10. @Anonymous

    Yes there is no problem in marrying people from different sects of velamas. It is quite common and many families are a mix of different sects of velamas. :)

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  11. How common is intermarriage between OC velamas (padmanayaka, adhi) and BC-D velamas (koppula, polinati)? Does anyone know of any specific examples of popular people?

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  12. I have often come across this prejudice where an OC person automatically assumes that a BC person has used reservation and hence looks down upon him. Whereas the truth is that there are a lot of BCs (in this case koppula & polinati velamas) who have not used any reservation whatsoever and in fact have excelled at academics. I find it very disparaging that a genuinely meritorious BC person should be an unwitting target of such prejudices. Has anybody been in such an awkward situation? I myself have never used any reservation but I believe it to be a form of affirmative action in order to bring about social justice and socail equality. In this regard, I found these interesting articles in Hindu:
    http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/08/23/stories/2004082308900400.htm
    http://www.hinduonnet.com/2006/05/25/stories/2006052505660900.htm

    I am sorry if I may have inadvertently hurt anybody's sentiments, but it is merely a teeny weeny political opinion of mine.

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  13. What is the percentage of Velama population in Andhra Pradesh?

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  14. This is with response to Ananymous posted on July 13, 2010. Prejudice is very common in our society irrepective whether you are beneficiary of reservations or not. It is great burden to carry. This is something we need to think deeper as how we can overcome. Koppula and Polinati Velamas are well off in their villages. Since most of these people belonging to Koppula and Polinati Velamas live in Uttarandhra, which is the most backward region in our state. The people in this region suffered a lot. This region continue to suffer from indifference from all governments. Uttarandhra and our communities development are interlinked. This is the time our communities has to speak. Since Srikrishna commission is touring our state. We need to bring Uttarandhra development to Srikrishna commission's notice. This is important. If Uttarandhra is developed, we will be developed and we will not need reservations in future. Our furure generations need not face bigotry from developed communities. So send ideas and suggestions to Srikrishna Commission as how Uttarandhra can be developed. Here are few suggestions I have to develop Uttarandhra:

    1. Separate development council needs to be formed with special budget.
    2. Special package should be given to this region by Central Govt.
    3. Major irrigation projects should be completed so that every acre of land can cultivated.
    4. All village should be well connected and have good shools

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  15. I am a P velama !July 16, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    Actually A very well known Padmanayaka leader from Warangal, active in the T movement, is in the process of getting his son married to a polinati velama girl. The delay is on account of the current T agitation. Once it subsides the news will be public.

    There are hundreds of marriages between Polinati velamas from srikakulam and Padmanayaka velamas particularly from MBNR and Khammam.

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  16. Also it must be clarified that BC-D status was given only in 1972 by Vengal Rao as a compensation for not giving ministries to velamas from coastal andhra. It was originally given for 10 years and have continued.
    In fact the real BCs of the area are very resentful that the powerful polinati/koppula velamas have been given this.

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  17. A cousin of mine (polinati velama) got married to the son of a popular political leader (padmanayaka velama) from Warangal who is also active in the T-movement.

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  18. I can tell that velama population is about 25 to 30 percent of the in uttarandhra region. It comes aroun 20 lakhs. They are second dominant community next to kapus in this region.

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  19. we belong to the velama community, and we live in chittoor, we are padmanayakas and we add naidu as middle name. but we people from chittoor(modalapalli,village and surroundings were not yet recognised(in sense not web site related to velamas mention this place and people who live there, i want to inform you that please recognise us too, there are some villages around chittoor, where our community people live, there is good literacy rate among them, we are all interested in joining the people living in other parts

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  20. i dont know who actually updates the information in this site,but i want to suggest something that, intermediate board chairman Mr.Balaramiah .IAS, belongs to velama caste he is from poodi located near by srikalahasti,chittoor dist A.p

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  21. Hi friends,

    Whenever I go to velama webiste/forum/blog, the discussion of BC/OC topic always comes up. I belong to Koppula Velama community.
    I have seen my cousin got married to Padmanayaka Velama. I have padmanayaka velamas, who treat all velamas are same. At the same
    time, I see padmanayaka velamas, who think otherwise. It is an individual's opinion. There is nothing wrong in either case.
    I have seen political and community leaders on both sides, working together to bring commnunities together so that we can help each other to develop into a strong community.

    I feel the reason polinati and koppula communites were included in backward class category because
    most of these people live in north coastal districts. These districts do not have proper irrigation and educational facilities when compared to
    other coastal districts i.e. Guntur and Krishna.

    I think it is waste of time for everyone of us to discuss BC/OC topic again and again. Let us leave it to induviduals to decide.

    In mean while let us work hard to deveop our communities. We need to think how we can to send more number of MLAs/MPs. At one time, Koppula and polinati velamas used to have 13 MLAs. Now the number dropped to 6 seats. We lost few seats to delimitation and prajarajyam factors. We could have won 2 to 3 more seats if our commuity worked hard. We need to put all our energies together to increase our political share in next elections. We have lot of progress in the field of education, business and other fields.

    Uttarandhra, which is home to Koppula and Polinati velams needs our help to develop into a prosperous region. The region needs irrigration projects so that every acre of land can cultivated and every child gets proper education. We need to lobby to
    get more funds allotted to this region. In next elections, we need to seek more number of MLA and MP seats from all major
    political parties. We need to see more people from our communites nominated to positions of power.

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  22. This is in response to the comment posted by Anonymous on Aug 18th. I totally agree that the OC/BC issue comes up many a time. One often becomes harsh and judgmental about KVs/PVs while the BC-D status was accorded only as late as 1972. What is worse is that they are often condescended even if they have not been beneficiaries of reservation. Take this scenario: OC girl who has used women's-quota versus BC girl who has not used any reservation; who is more meritorious?

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  23. Interesting! "OC/FC girl who used 33% women's quota versus BC girl who did not use any reservation at all"
    I vote for the second one.

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  24. This is in response to above few postings, I feel that prejudice will continue to haunt us as long as Uttarandhra velamas are listed under present reservation category list.

    Infact in 2008, the state government has decided to remove Uttarandhra Velamas from reservation category list. Our political leaders lobbied against it as Uttarandhra Velamas cannot compete with coastal andhra people as circar districts region are lot more developed than north costal disticts.

    Coastal Andhra region historically under British rule benefited from irrigation projects on Krishna and Godavari regions. British has encouraged education by setting up educational institutions. This has developed this region a lot.

    On other hand, Uttrandhra was under Zamindar rule. Zamindars were never interested in developing this region. They never developed this region educationally or economically. Even after independence, this region did not get enough budget and resource allocation for development.

    So in order to compete with coastal andhra people, our political leaders argued against removing uttarandhra velamas from reservation category list.

    I feel instead of listing uttarandhra velamas in present reservation category lists which is based on social status and regional backwardness, a new region for rural uttarandhra should be created. This is not a new concept. At present, seats in professional colleges and jobs
    are divided between coastal andhra, rayalaseema and telangana regions. The government
    needs to create a new region category i.e. Uttarandhra rural and allot certain percentage from coastal andhra to uttarandhra rural region.

    By removing uttarandhra velamas from present reservation categoty list will stop bigotry and prejudice. And by creating a new region for uttarandhra region will
    protect interests of uttarandhra people and help in competing with more developed coastal region.

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  25. Really great comments on "Velama-Velama sub divisions-Existence, dicrepencies on OC, BC--EXPLAINED"...

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  26. i think many people including me want k.velmas n p.velmas to be considered as oc....
    gues it will happen some time soon....

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  27. Thanks for the acknowledgement Eeenadu!

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  28. 6. KVP Rama Chandra Rao - Rajyasabha member and family friend to YSR.
    By mentioning family friend to YSR.
    as KVP's designation u r glorifying YS and reddys.Pls remove this line.

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  29. Hi,

    I am belongs to koppula velama community and loving polinati velama girl. I havee seen in many posts that any one can marry any one. However, My parrents do not agree with that. Can any one suggest me to overcome my sitiation.Your response really helps a lot.

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  30. I am varri apparao from attili .i belonged to koppula velama. But i don't like sub divisions in velama we are united.

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  31. ur r not added
    1 dharu
    2 dhandu
    3 venkannagari
    4 abbinani
    5 shivvayagari
    plz add these these all belongs to velma (r.r.dist, kukatpally)

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  32. @Shiva
    I have promoted your comment to the first page as post. Please have a look at it.

    Cheers,
    Ganesh Velama

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  33. sir nenu kuda koppula velama ......surnames lo na surname ledu sir . "mantrabuddi" this is my surname.... include it sir .......velaimates rockzzzzzzzzzzz

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  34. Very good information about Velamas.Can you give any book reference or source reference for this

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  35. sabbani yaakulya,
    vijayawada

    2 standard
    n s m school

    velamaits

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  36. IS THERE ANY VELAME COMPUTER SCIENCE ENGINEERING DOCTORATES ARE THERE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN U HELP ME IN PH.D.,

    achutaraosv@gmail.com

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  37. dharmana pradsda rao (minister in A.P. assembly from 2004-present) son who is polinati B.C. velama married a adhi velama from Hyderabad

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    1. Dharmana Prasada Rao's son is married to M.Satyanarana Rao's (former PCC President) grand daughter who is Padmanayaka Velama from Telangana.

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  38. many doctors from vizag ... had this inter sub caste marriages between bc& oc velamas

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  39. we need to be united so that we can be recognized as a strong community economically and most importantly politically ..

    we need to learn a lot from kappu community who are soo united irrespective of bc oc divisions ... and of course lot of us (velamas) are also united irrespective ... i want to see the little differences should also vanish

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  40. Hi Raj,

    Your intentions are good in uniting all velamas. But mentioning oc and bc velama does not help. This distinction again and again is not required.

    Koppula and polinati velamas are in bc list because of regional backwardness not social backwardness.
    Patnaiks are in oc list till last year. Now they are
    listed in bc list. Till 1972 Uttandhra velamas are in oc category. Patnaiks like Uttarandhra velamas
    are confined to Srikakulam and Vizianagram districts only.
    This community in neighboring Orissa is a dominant community
    and all most all chief ministers hail from this community.
    Patnaiks are closely tied to Brahmin community in most respects.
    Patnaiks as well as Uttandhra velamas are in bc list because
    they are confined to a region which is under developed because
    of lack of water resources and past famines etc. and they do not
    have presence in other regions to balance. This is the same reason Brahmins, Vaishyas and Kshtriyas from Uttarandhra are not in BC list as they have presence in rest of Andhra to balance and get help.

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  41. is eluru surname belongs to vela ma community

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  42. no.. up to now we didn't found any of this surname like ELURU..
    anyway this is a good article which clarifies so many doubts of our VELAMA SODARAS...I request all my velama sodaras one thing, that don't give that much care about sub-divisions,we must be unite.The future is our's..We will be in a position to lead the country in all fields.WE ARE RULERS..........
    ***********BE PROUD TO BE A VELAMA*************

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  43. hi this is rajesh naidu from kadapa i am also belongs to velama unity my sur name is gannamaneni and my reletives has surnames like chinthakunta and thippaluru plz add it

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    1. HI RAJESH , KADAPA DISTRICT WHICH VILLAGE

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  44. మిత్రులారా, మిత్రులారా, kvp రామచంద్రరావు గారి ఫాదర్ "వెలమ జాతి చరిత్ర" రాశారని చదివాను. అది పుస్తకంగా వచ్చిందా? ఇంకెవరైనా మన జాతీయుల చరిత్ర రాశారా? ఆ పుస్తకాలు ఎక్కడ దొరుకుతాయో దయచేసి, చెప్పండి. _ రామరాజు, విశాఖపట్నం.

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    1. what is the name of the book can u tell me plzzz

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  45. Hello
    freinds it hard to read.........but keep it mind we all are INDIANS....Dont think that i was from SC/ST/BC i'm pure VELAMA but love the PEOPLE not the CASTE..Respect all the CASTE and Regions.....if any thing wronmg in my words Sorry.......This page is to say the Glory of respected Castes...! But not to fight.........Bye bye frnds......

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  46. Anna Balijas, Lingayat, Devangas, Padmashale,Mudaliyar, Mudiraj, Munnurukapu, KAPU, Telaga,ontari, Padma nayak Velama, VELAMA and our sub-castes coming in MEGA NAID COMMUNITY.

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  47. Kapu is Big Community, Telaga land lords called by VELAMA DORA, Telaga weavers converted to Pattu_shali and fishers called by Ontari.
    ---> Markandeya Naid

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  48. i am also velama. Belongs to sub caste of aadi velama. My surname is yarram. Plz add it also.

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  49. i want the clarification about aadi velama and padma velama. Which sub caste is first. Some of my frnds said that padma velamas are the first sub caste and aadi velamas are second second. Which one is correct ?

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  51. can i know sub catagory of jupally
    like obc,bc-c,bc-c etc

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  52. can any one tell me...
    who are these velama's ?
    from where does this caste has been originated?
    what are the roots of this caste.
    i don't find any one mentioning about velama's in any epics or from they came from or what is their livelyhood before.

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  53. Guys we need strong velama caste platform... to fight in this caste comparative world .........................................................................................................
    Need active participants.. all of you give your contact details to be get together
    Mine is NAME: BHARATH
    EMAIL:bharathme1@gmail.com

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    1. BHARATH MY NAME IS SURENDRA CONTACT NO: 9701658118,

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  54. no this is absolutely wrong koppula velama is not belongs to velama.. search in wikipedia.padmanayaka velamas are royals........these information is absolutely wrong

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  55. Hai, I am polinati velama. My sir name is goddu. Pls enter this to oursir names list.

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  56. hi, i belong to koppula velama and residing at hyderabad since 30years. Can any one clarify that KOPPULA VELAMA'S are BC as per the recent Telangana GO.MS.No.16 dt.11.03.2015 of BC welfare dept.,
    Ganta Srinivasa Prasad
    ph.9666179760

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    1. As per G.O. Ms No. 16dt.11.03.2015, Koppula Velama community comes under OC

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    2. As per G.O. Ms No. 16dt.11.03.2015, Koppula Velama community comes under OC

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  57. Sir ma caste kuda koppula velama epudu telangana BC-D caste list lo nunchi thesasaru epudu mamu dani kinadaki vastamu please chapara nanu inka epass kuda apply cheyaladu

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  58. Hi guys,
    I'm Arvind from Chennai. But my father's home town is Vandavasi, where the great Damarla Chennappa Nayakudu was ruling. I belong to Padma velama Naidu, OC.
    Reply guys,
    Thank you ... Nice meeting you all.

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  59. I am not getting my caste certificate of koppulavelma in telangana for applying govt jobs...what to do???

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    1. Yah , same problem with me also... Kcr changed it to OC
      In SR nagar there is a committee of Velma's , if you are intrested we shall enquiry .
      Email: saipraveenrulzz@gmail.com

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  60. I'm Siva rao from Vijayawada ...I'm from PADMA VELAMA Dora. I'm think don't say sub division ...We are Velama ruler's that's all...Our Symbol...I will post it...Our name ending Rao's .Jai Bramha naidu....Tandra Paparayudu...KCR, Jalagam,rani Rudramamma Devi,.....

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  61. Guy's How to post it ...Images in this site..? i would say 1 dol 2knifs..in Midle V sysmbol...that's our Symbol...I see Mostly in HYDERBAD,Tealgana...But People are encourage...in AP also...
    See All Kamma's all put NTR Photo...Back side CAR r Bike...Please our self also...DOL1 2 Knifs...in Midle of that V...for Velama....ok Guy's

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  62. Im a student, ive completed my diploma, for lateral to btech I'm in need of caste certificate of kopula velma BC-D
    But hell is happening , things are going very bad...
    How can a backward caste can be changed to OC,
    After the formation of telangana KCR changed our caste to OC.
    What if i don't get fee-reimbusment?
    My parent's can't pay my clg fee!!
    Why are we silent, can't we take any action ? We should make this as an issue , we should take this to press.
    Hope anyone helps me in solving this problem.
    My email id : saipraveenrulzz@gmail.com
    My ph.no : 9441163644

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  63. Nalle belongs to velama caste?

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  64. Is polinati velama belong to bc-D or OC in telangana

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  65. Brahmins ki nayi brahmins Challa diffrence undhi vadi (cast work)but padmanayaka velama and all sub casts ( cast work) same all of u doing FORMING

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